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- Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 18:45:42 -0400 (EDT)
- Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:13 CDT
- Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 18:45:42 -0400 (EDT)
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- >From sdf!ekl@letni.LoneStar.org Tue Jul 12 18:27:38 1994
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- Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:13 CDT
- From: ekl@sdf.lonestar.org (Evan K. Langlois)
- To: uunet!letni!world.std.com!gem-list-approval
- Subject: Re: Digest
-
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- > If you have AES 3.4 or greater, you should check and see what features
- > are present in the system using appl_getinfo().
-
- Isn't this only in aes >= 4.00? Or is this another bug in the Compendium?
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- I think it's in AES 3.4, and TOS 4.0. TOS and AES versions aren't the same.
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- OK should close the dialogue. To make changes and leave the dialogue open Apply
- should be used. To cancel changes and leave the dialogue open, Revert should be
- used.
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-
- Agreed
-
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- Thanks for posting this, it was interesting. BTW, you mention three button
- mice, I knew GEM supported three (and up to 8 :) button mice but I had never
- heard of anyone fitting one. What should a program do with middle button
- clicks?
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-
- Uhh .. MiNT will fake pakets for 3 button mice if you wire the third
- button to a joystick direction, much like the second button is wired to
- the joystick fire button.
-
- Now, what to do with a third click is tough. I suggested (in the post that
- you replied to) that programs that use multiple tools allow the user to
- assign separate tools to eachmouse button by clicking on them with that
- mouse button. So, say you have a drawing program and you click on the
- wide brush with the left mouse button and then click on blue, then you
- click on the eraser tool with the right button, then you click on the
- spray can with the third button, and click on the color red with the
- third button.
-
- Now, you can paint in blue, spray in red, and erase without going back to
- your toolbar. If you had an 8-button mouse you would hardly ever need the
- toolbar again!! If you only had a 2 button mouse then you must return to
- the toolbar more often, but the program is not limited.
-
- If the application doesn't use a toolbar like that, then the button should
- just pop-up the main application menu.
-
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- > Characters that need more than the shift key have to be excluded or the
- > Cntrl-Alt-Shift combination that is needed shouldn't be allowed.
-
- Which characters are they?
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-
- CNTRL-ALT-FKey is for MiNT debugging.
- ALT-FKey is for Vconsoles
- CNTRL-ALT-\ is for death, although this, and other CNTRL-ALT-letters that
- MiNt reserves may or may not affect GEM apps. Personally I think CNTRL-ALT-C
- for "please die", CNTRL-ALT-\ for "die now!" is very useful when you see
- a program deleting half your hard disk (you did a recursive delete on the
- root directory?? DIE!), and CNTRL-ALT-Z is nice for those polling programs
- (which means "SLEEP"). These can be turned off and I have no idea if
- MultiTOS leaves them on or off. So, MiNT adds quite a bit, but you have to
- give up a few keys. I think ALT-TAB (or CNTRL-ALT-TAB??) is for switching
- apps, and some other ALT-non-alphanum keys are used by other OSs maybe.
-
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- And when they aren't the users fault it can still be an error anyway. `Fatal
- disc <small problem absolutely not your fault...>'
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-
- What sort of disk error? If you can't find the file, then say that. If
- the disk is full, tell the user. Fatal Disk Error doesn't tell me anything.
- And of course, you must suggest a course of action. For file not found,
- tell the user where to put the file (pun not intended), for disk full, tell
- user to delete unneeded files, or archive them to another floppy. GEMDOS
- doesn't and ALERT boxes won't help much for a head crash :-)
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